Is there any such a thing as a quiet straight key?

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I still haven't decided if I want to start with a straight key or a paddle or something in the middle (sideswiper/cootie, bug). This will be the topic of maybe a further thread.

I know there are capacitive paddle keys. Is there a kind of "quiet" straight key? I'd have to practice in shared environment and I don't want to upset other people or attract attention. Or can it be homebrewed?
 
ottavio said:
I still haven't decided if I want to start with a straight key or a paddle or something in the middle (sideswiper/cootie, bug). This will be the topic of maybe a further thread.

I know there are capacitive paddle keys. Is there a kind of "quiet" straight key? I'd have to practice in shared environment and I don't want to upset other people or attract attention. Or can it be homebrewed?

This might end up being an epic post!

The 'noise' from straight keys is created or propagated by three things I would say.

1) Contact noise (the clicking and clanking of the front and rear contacts closing).

2) Mechanical amplification of those noises caused by the material/s and design of the keys' frame and base.

3) Further mechanical amplification caused by the 'sounds' from the key itself being transmitted through the table or desk etc. that the key is mounted on.

The noisiest keys tend to have hollow plastic bases or bases made from wood, which are in turn in direct contact with the table surface beneath. Also, some of the larger straight keys produce noise because of the weight or mass of the arm being suddenly stopped by hitting the fixed contact.

So based on the above quiet straight keys tend to have lightweight arms, with maybe a solid metal base, which is in turn placed on a soft, sound absorbing mat (some of the thicker foam mouse mats are great for this and cheap too).

The old telegraph keys from the late 1800's are OK, as are the modern equivalent (like the Altai High Speed Key). Others would include Junkers Morse keys (these have a quiet clonk sound to them with their cover closed, but if you open the cover or remove it completely they are surprisingly quiet).

The RAF-D keys are quiet if you use a small gap, and also place them on a mouse pad.

A lot of the miniature military keys from Russia and Serbia etc, are quiet, as are a lot of the military keys. Many of the leg mounted keys are quiet because they are small, and because you leg will not amplify the sound like a table would!

If you want a really modern quiet straight key then the Palm Radio straight key is quiet, but they are no longer made so you need to look for second hand ones. Essentially they are modern equivalents of the miniature military keys, but more expensive generally.

A miniature military key can be obtained for maybe £10-£20, whereas the Palm Radio one will cost perhaps £100-£150...

With pretty well all of the straight keys, if you use them with a very tiny gap, they will be quiet.

The cheaper ones have thin pressed metal arms, and you can use that to your advantage. They allow you to close the gap right down until it is permanently closed, then you increase the tension which causes the arm to bend back up and reopen the contact. Used like that the back contact will never move, and you are in effect turning the key in to a torsion suspension one instead of its original pivoted action. So instead of the arm rocking back and forth it is instead flexing or bending when you apply pressure.

You mentioned touch paddles, well you can use those as straight keys by tipping them on their side and just using the dit or dah output trigger. I've also used mine with the paddles as they should be, and just 'pressed' sideways instead of downwards for straight keying.

There are a lot of designs on the web for 'moisture detectors', and these can be adapted to produce a touch sensitive straight key (actually a touch sensitive pad area), so that again can give you a totally silent 'key'.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=moisture+detector+circuit&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwih0cXsruzsAhVOQEEAHZPbA-4Q_AUoAXoECAwQAw&biw=1366&bih=626

For the keyed area you can use some Vero (matrix) board, and wire alternate tracks together. This allows you to make a contact 'pad' pretty well any size or shape you wish. Two wires from that to one of the above moisture/rain detectors, and you have a touch straight 'key'.

73, Mark...
 
No problem. bd

If you are looking at any keys in particular and you wonder if they will be any good, just ask and maybe I can give you my opinion of them. I have quite a few keys I've collected over the years so I have had hands on experience with many of the more common keys, both commercial ones and ex-military.

Plus we have a few other collectors who are members too, so they may also help.

73, Mark...
 
I had that problem ... straight key was too loud at 3AM! Who knew? I was a young teenager (WN9NIZ) and got up around then to work JA-land. My parents bedroom was at the far end of the house but she could hear it which made for some sort QSOs.

My soulution was to minimize the contact gap as much as possible and still have a reliable fist. I also placed a wash cloth under the key to deaden the noise to the wood desk and flipped some of it over the key for a bit more. Never had another interrupted QSO again.
 
Wow, I had the same problem as a novice living at home (WN2ELW).  I would wake up in the middle of the night to chase DX.  I also made to contacts On the key as close as possible so I would just barely press the key and I would get contact....also put the key on a shirt to further muffle it....... those were the days with straight keys and crystal radios!
 
Hello
I'm new around here thanks to the link posted in Sprat. Plenty to enjoy here!
I dislike noisy straight keys too.  The keys with the contact on a string leaf like my HK802 is very quiet in fact it is a delight to use. I suspect that all the swedish pattern keys may be  quiet. The Czech bakelite bodied key that appeared on Ebay a while back is also nice and quiet too. My least favourite in my Kent whose wooden base seems to amplify the clatter like a guitar sound board.

Just my 2 penniies worth

Alan G0KMC
 
G0KMC said:
Hello
I'm new around here thanks to the link posted in Sprat. Plenty to enjoy here!
I dislike noisy straight keys too.  The keys with the contact on a string leaf like my HK802 is very quiet in fact it is a delight to use. I suspect that all the swedish pattern keys may be  quiet. The Czech bakelite bodied key that appeared on Ebay a while back is also nice and quiet too. My least favourite in my Kent whose wooden base seems to amplify the clatter like a guitar sound board.

Just my 2 penniies worth

Alan G0KMC
Hiya Alan, welcome to the forum. bd

I used to own a Hi-Mound HK802 many moons ago. I sold mine for a couple of reasons, one being that I liked the feel of the key when the control 'button' was adjust quite a way back, which meant there was always a long section of arm sticking out and looking awkward. Also, I would have like a thumb rest disc which I've never seen on these keys (though there is a brass ring under the button, but it's a bit small in diameter for my tastes).

When adjusted to the front of the arm the key feels very much like the Swedish pump key you mentioned. Another key with a similar feel (though very much cheaper to buy!) is the Polish "Stork" Key.

Up the top end of the cost scale are thing like the Marconi PS-213 keys (and the AS-300 labelled ones).

73, Mark...
 
Hi
I bought my KH802 back in 1992 after trying a few others including a Swedish key and I remember that the guy at South Midlands Communications at Chandlers Ford (remember them) was very patient as I spent nearly two hours trying keys out. I settled on the '802, It was expensive at 100 pounds but worth it. I still have the original box etc kept safe.
Pic attached and as you will notice I have added a thumb rest.

73 Alan
 

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If you want a silent straight key then consider buying a RM31 Czech military key. I bought mine off eBay. Very quiet key, no thumping sound whatsoever!

73 de Jo PG4I
 
What cw mo guy said. As a teenager I would get up in he wee hours & catch a QSO with JA land. I was in the middle of Illinois at the time. Additionally I sat the key on a a dry wash cloth & flipped the rest over the top of the key.

Now, I also have this touch paddle, "https://www.amateurradio.com/a-new-touch-paddle-for-the-shack/". I did not buy mine from that place & couldn't tell how much it is there. I do like it, but I don't have 1000s of hours with straight keys. I like my Begali Sculpture Swing Cootie Key. It is a lighter touch than the HST III. I bought these keys used & saved some $$ ... these keys are *not* for everyone so patience might be your friend.
Jeff AE8W
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@PG4I I have one of those RM31 keys in my collection, it's built like a battleship. I like the way you can lock the arm up when not in use. They tend to go for very little money here in the UK, which is surprising since they are well engineered and function nicely.

@AE8W I only have the one touch paddle, not the particular one you mentioned though. I think mine was a kit/module that was built in to a case by the previous owner, they also added a hefty steel weight, so the key stays put and does not slide around the desk top when in use. I find it a different style of sending to a traditional twin paddle key because you have to remember NOT to touch the paddles in between characters. It always takes me a while to remember this if I've been using a mechanical key beforehand.

The straight keys and paddles keys that were made by Palm Radio are very quiet. In fact they seem pretty well silent in use. You can still pick them up second hand but they are much sought after by the SOTA operators.

73, Mark...
 

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