Wednesday 1930UTC 40m Sked

MI0PYN

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Based on feedback, I think it's worth attempting a sked on 40m (highest band I have access to currently).

I suggest Wednesday evening at 1930z (2030 in current daylight savings) if prop allows.
I'll confirm the frequency later, but somewhere close to the Fists frequencies might be good.
I'll be calling CQ at around 6-8WPM and making many mistakes, but if you hear me, feel free to respond, secure in the knowledge that my morse will be worse than yours  ;)
 
Sounds good Stefan.

If I can get home from work in time then I'll give it a go.

Although I have a fairly good 40m antenna (quarter wave vertical) it is not always the best for close-in inter-G but here's hoping.

If anyone wants to listen in but don't have HF receive equipment, this can be done with just a PC by logging into one of the various online SDR receivers.

60m/5MHz is a great band for inter-G but I guess very few folk have a dedicated antenna for this band.
 
Count me in Stefan.

I have yet to fix my Kenwood 480, but in the meantime I brought my Icom 7200 backup rig, so I can join. If it could be later, like 21:00h, better for me. If not, I'll try to show up at the proposed time.
 
I'm just confirming that I'll be calling CQ on 7.032MHz, assuming no-one else is occupying that frequency, at 1930UTC (2030BST) tomorrow night.
If I don't hear anything, I can go up to 14.055MHz, but there's unlikely to be much happening there at that time.
 
I'm still at work and anticipate being here till at least 2100. So very much regret will miss the sked.
73

Pete
 
Freq is occupied. Heard Stefan and another G0 callsign calling, but there's someone else already calling in that frequency. Can you change?
 
That was nice, Stefan! Too bad for the QSB. I can copy you very loud here, though. Clearly we have the conditions to make another try some other day.
 
Thanks for the attempt Pedro, there was so much QSB after your first response. You came in very loud at first and then faded rapidly.
I was putting 50W into an end-fed half wave from an FT-891, and I'm glad I was making it out to Portugal.
I think it's definitely worth trying again though on another night.
I was surprised by the amount of stations on this evening, definitely to busiest I've heard it.

73 and we'll definitely try again.
 
CT2GXW said:
That was nice, Stefan! Too bad for the QSB. I can copy you very loud here, though. Clearly we have the conditions to make another try some other day.
MI0PYN said:
Thanks for the attempt Pedro, there was so much QSB after your first response. You came in very loud at first and then faded rapidly.
I was putting 50W into an end-fed half wave from an FT-891, and I'm glad I was making it out to Portugal.
I think it's definitely worth trying again though on another night.
I was surprised by the amount of stations on this evening, definitely to busiest I've heard it.

73 and we'll definitely try again.

I could hear both of you when you were calling on 7032 with some QSB, but I was plagued by a bunch of powerful stations either DXing or in some kind of sprint. Everything above and below by about 1-2kHz was rammed with stations. Oddly, the lower end of 40m was relatively quiet by comparison. I think every operator in the northern hemisphere was calling on 7032.

I didn't realise that you had changed frequency as I was not checking the forum, so I missed your QSO I'm afraid.

If I have to QSY more than a few kHz I have to retune the magnetic loop antenna for optimal performance, and also if I need a low SWR for TXing. I can peak the loop by ear for just RXing.

73, Mark...
 
Hi Mark,

Do you have a commercial mag loop, or a homemade one? I've been tempted to build one a couple of times, but the constant need for retuning keeps me away from it, as well as the price of the capacitor, in order to handle 100W.
 
CT2GXW said:
Hi Mark,

Do you have a commercial mag loop, or a homemade one? I've been tempted to build one a couple of times, but the constant need for retuning keeps me away from it, as well as the price of the capacitor, in order to handle 100W.

I have two, both are commercially made. The one I was using tonight is my main (for main read only!) station antenna which is an MFJ-1788X - 15-40M loop. The capacitor is quite large in that one, and can handle 100w easily.

It has a control box that allows it to find bands/frequencies semi-automatically. It 'sweeps' the tuning of the loop until it detects a dip in the SWR and then halts the tuning. As it does this it sounds a buzzer and also puts an indicator LED on to show whether you need to tune up or down to get the final fine tuning of the loop.

The down side is that you still need to be aware of what frequency the loop is tuned to so that you can start the sweep in the correct direction. If you get it wrong it means waiting maybe a minute or so while the loop sweeps back down or up to where you needed it to be in the first place.

You get used to it after a short while, plus I find that with the amount of electrical noise around this QTH I can peak the loop by ear, and it only requires a few pulses in the fine tuning mode to get the correct SWR while TXing.

The other loop is a collapsible portable loop made by Chameleon Antennas in the USA. There's a post about it in the Antennas and Masts section of the forum >>>

https://hamradioforum.com/threads/portable-loop-antenna-by-chameleon.38/

Normally that one would be used with a QRP rig, I don't think the tuning capacitor is rated for high powers any way, and I really don't fancy sitting next to a loop radiating a lot of energy anyhow. I once say next to a loop for the 10m amateur band that was being fed with about 5W. After about half an hour of use I started to get a really bad headache, and after maybe another half an hour had elapsed I thought my head would explode! I was in real pain for maybe two to four hours after transmitted for maybe only 10-15 minutes tops. So these days I make a point of sitting in the null of any loops while TXing, and even then only at QRP levels.

The Chameleon loop is manually tuned, and has a slow motion drive to the capacitor, so it's very easy to peak the tuning. There is an add-on kit now though that allows remote tuning, but last time I looked it was more expensive than the loop itself! Apart from which, I would normally be near to the loop anyhow if I was portable with it, so it's easy enough to just reach over and tune it by hand.

The Chameleon Loop covers a wider range than the MFJ loop, and there is an add-on section that allows it to tune down to 80m. I could make an even longer add-on section, but I doubt it would be very efficient on Top Band unless the diameter of the loop was increased.

Both loops are reasonably quick to retune within a band, but it can take longer if moving from a band at one end of the loop coverage to the other. I like them though because they are surprisingly efficient for their size, and because I only normally run QRP I need all the help I can get.

There are some newer auto-tuning loops that are very fast. There was one designed by G4WIM station last year I think it was, and that design was published in Radcom magazine. He used a stepper motor and a microprocessor at the heart of his design. I've seen videos of the loop in action, and even the simple act of him moving his hand towards the loop causes it to retune.


Hope that lot makes sense!

73, Mark...
 
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I always liked the idea of a loop but never got round to trying to make one, and the commercial efforts out there are all rather pricey.

At any rate, I think the proof of concept of having a sked on air on 40m worked, as Mark heard us in the UK and we made the trip from N.Ireland to Portugal. I think we should be able to try again, when it'll be my copying rather than the QSB which will let us down.
 
Signals from both of you were very good.

I did not answer because of so many other stations all stomping on top of one another shouting some DX station.

Even with a narrow filter in use 7032 still sounded busy!

73, Mark...
 
Thanks for all the info, Mark. I've read before about the dangers of RF energy from magnetic loops, but your description is quite scary, considering only 5w being used. In my QTH I have to install the antenna on the balcony, so no way I could have one of those radiating inside home.
 
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Oops! I totally forgot about it :oops:

I managed to hear yourself and Pedro no problem last time, but the portion of the band where the sked was to take place was rammed with contesters at the time.

73, Mark...
 
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I'm afraid I'm on Dad duty again this week, I may be able to shout out around 2130UTC if things pan out but I'll post here if I can.
 
OK, I'll be online here tomorrow evening, and we can arrange the sked at that time if possible.
 
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