Icom IC-740 Fan Noise

N0MWU

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Hi,
I just got a used Icom 740 and I really like it alot seems to be working real well except for one issue. When I transmit the fan makes alot of noise. It sounds like it is off balance. Is there a way to balance the fan or replace it?
Thanks ahead of time for the advice on this one. If you have an answer that you do not want to post you can email me n0mwu@arrl.net

Liwei/N0MWU
 
Hiya Liwei

I just had a look at your radio on your website, and I must say it looks in fine condition!

I had a look at the service manual for the IC-740 and I see that the fan is in two halves, the propeller ("Fan Propeller(A)42081"), and the motor ("DC Motor M6B 12U22").

Unless the propeller has sustained damage, it is unlikely that it is the source of the noise, though sometimes fan blades can get covered with thick dust layer that can cause 'wobble'. The service manual appears to show a grub screw holding the fan propeller in place on the motor shaft, so just remove the propeller and wash it in warm soapy water.

The more likely cause of the noise is the motor itself. Pretty well all of these type of motor use phosphor bronze 'bearings' which are designed to self-lubricate. After many years of use the bearings get covered in a layer of hardened dust/dirt, and instead of the motor shaft running smoothly it tends to stick and race around the inside of the bearing, very often making a 'screaming' noise.

Also, these motors are very often pressed together, so they cannot always be disassembled to repair or clean them. If you cannot get the motor apart, fill up a small cup (or similar) with a suitable degreasing/lubricating agent (maybe WD40 or some similar penetrating oil), and immerse the motor in it, making sure that the motor fills with the solution, and leave it to soak overnight.

Next day, drain out the excess solution, and rinse the motor out with a degreaser such as Isopropyl alcohol (auto stores sell a spray solution/solvent for degreasing auto-mobile brake drums and disks). You could leave the light oil in the motor, but if it does have phosphor bronze bearing rings then they work best dry, not oiled. Only use alcohol based degreasers, since more potent solvents such as cellulose based ones might damage the insulation on the motor windings.

After a final drain out of any lubes/solvents, leave the motor somewhere warm so as to evaporate off any remaining 'moisture', and then reassemble and test.

If there is a good deal of side-play or wobble on the motor shaft then normally no amount of cleaning will help, and you will need to replace the motor (part number given above).

You could also try looking around for a cassette player motor of a similar size, or any one of a number of other scrap motors may work well.

If you don't mind spoiling the look of the radio a little, you could remove the old fan completely and then fit an external fan on to the back of the radio case. Computer case fans or CPU fans are very good alternatives, and very quiet normally.


73, Mark.
 
Wow thanks for all that info. That was 150 percent more than I thought I would get for an answer. I do not know how to say thank you for all the info. I am glad you enjoyed my site. I have another site of my family up also it is http://xiaoxu.us if you do not know Mandarin xiao xu is little xu our son. We picked the US as the end as we are the only members of the family in the usa. I will try all your suggestions and THANKS AGAIN!!!!

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Here is the outcome of the fan noise. I took the PA unit on the back end apart. The fan was not tight. First issue!! Second issue since I have not been back in the states for very long I do not have many tools. No hex tools STOP DAY ONE HEH. Next day. While getting hex tools looking at contact cleaner and saw some Silicon lube for electronic motors. Hmm only 3 dollars for a huge can. Got that with the hex tools go to work and think about this all day. Get home tear apart the radio PA clean everything well. It was not really too dirty. I would guess someone else had attempted to do this and then could not get the fan back on correctly as the hex key was Metric not English. I got lucky and bought Metric pays living overseas for so many years I guess. So I clean lube put it all back together and tighten the fan blades real well. The moment of truth is here. Hit the power switch the fan is purring like a kitten. Switch to the dummy load now hit the transmit it kicks into high gear but still purring like a kitten. ISSUE RESOLVED. Thanks a million.

de N0MWU/Liwei
 
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