CW over digital voice

foggycoder

Super Member
I've heard a faint rumour that CW is used on digital voice platforms such as:
  • D-Star
  • DMR
  • Fusion
I know nothing about digital voice - does anyone know if that rumour is true and, if so, how CW is used on those platforms?
 
I have never used any of these protocols but I've been told that there are "channels" reserved for CW. I think it is just modulated CW rather than "proper" CW.
 
Thanks, Ottavio. Yes, I'm sure it's not "proper" CW but I was wondering as much about the organisational aspect (calling channels, nets, protocols, that sort of thing) as about the technical aspects.

As regards those technical aspects, the crudest way to send morse over a voice channel would simply be to use a morse sounder and press the transmit button on your radio. But maybe there are more direct ways of digitising the morse though - iCW uses such a system, for instance.
 
foggycoder said:
I've heard a faint rumour that CW is used on digital voice platforms such as:
  • D-Star
  • DMR
  • Fusion
I know nothing about digital voice - does anyone know if that rumour is true and, if so, how CW is used on those platforms?

Well, D-Star is Icom's baby, DMR is just a generic digital voice voice protocol, and Fusion (A.K.A. C4FM)  is Yaesu's baby.

All of these systems are generally implemented on FM VHF/UHF handheld transceivers, or mobile transceivers. None of them (as far as I am aware) were ever intended to use CW, just voice, though they can perform a CW identification (modulated audio, frequency modulated) as a means to identify the transmitter to non-digital listeners (normally government bodies).

Info around the web suggests that using CW (modulated audio) over any of the protocols you mentioned is an impromptu situation, there were no large scale organised groups leaping out at me anyhow.

The other info gleaned from searching was that the general method for transmitting 'CW' over the digital systems involved was done by simply keying an audio oscillator plugged in to the microphone socket of the rigs concerned.

I would imagine that any software/interfaces available that would allow access to the systems (all of them get 'trunked' from place to place via the internet), would also allow you to operate modulated CW without the need for a dedicated radio for any one system.

None of the systems are compatible with each other and generally any one radio will do only standard FM and one of the digital protocols mentioned above.

DMR ones are the lowest cost ones, possibly followed by Fusion(C4FM) and then D-Star. This is just a 'gut' feeling though based on numbers available of each of the units, and whether or not the system is open source or proprietary.

I'll try asking on one of the bigger digital forums and see if we get any feedback from it, unless someone on here knows that is!

73, Mark...
 
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