Cormac CQ100

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Out of all the internet based communication programs I've tinkered with, CQ100 stands out by a mile.

It is not primarily intend as a Morse Over Internet program, as it can carry speech too. The look of it, the layout and the functionality are all excellent. There are regular nets from various areas of the world, at different times of day or night. It is not over populated, and some times you may find nothing at all for some hours.

A novel feature is the sister program QSO-TV which allows you to  send images while talking. The 'TV' can be positioned anywhere on the desktop as can the 'radio' interface itself.

For Morse Code there are two ways you could send. One would be to use the inbuilt keyer (you can vary speed and pitch), but this does not use a paddle key, you type your message on the keyboard. This is the one down side, you cannot use a key, and it does not use a single button or the space bar like other programs do.

However, because the program can send normal audio it is easy enough to use a side tone oscillator or the monitor tone output from a keyer. The virtual radio has a VOX mode, so again, TX/RX switching could be done by simple audio without the need to put together any special wiring. Also you have most of the controls of a real HF radio.

The internal microphone in a standard laptop is more than sensitive enough for most purposes, or you could use a goose neck PC microphone, or maybe adapt a true Amateur desk microphone. I guess you could go really crazy and even use or make a small audio mixer of some type, mixing an external microphone and the Morse audio tone together.

Many of the programs on the web allow anyone to use them, but CQ100 is only available to licensed Amateurs. When you register you have to send a photograph of your licence for your account to me validated. Also, this program is not free, it costs $39 (about £31) per year.

I have been using CQ100 for a number of years now and have found it to be excellent. It would be nice if there were more UK Amateurs using it, as many of the nets and operators are based in the US or Canada, with others scattered around the world.

If you do have a licence you can have a thirty day trial of the program (that's how I started with it), to see if you like it and whether or not it's for you.

While typing this up I was having a listen to the "Rusty Nail Net", and before that another small net of mainly Canadian stations. All of the groups I've heard over the years will always happily accept folks calling in from anywhere, the only limiting factor would generally be whether or not you 'qualify' for a particular net. For example you would look pretty foolish checking in to a net for Ontarian Firefighters if you were an Ice-cream seller in Bournemouth! ;D

There is a recognised  'phone' calling 'frequency', an also a set 'CW' calling frequency. I've listened to that on and off over time and you do hear stations calling. The general ethos on CQ100 is treat it as though you really were on-air.

But for a high quality medium for Morse practice over the internet it's hard to beat, and trust me I've tried a few over the years. This is the only one I've stayed with even though you do have to subscribe. Renewal is up to the individual operator, there is no money taken from you year after year until you cancel. You pay for one year's access at a time and if after one year you decided not renew then you don't have to do anything, your account expires and you simply loose access to the service. If you then want to go back on the system at a layer date, just log in, pay your years subscription, and away you go again.

You can find the info, and program here > http://qsonet.com/programs.html


73, Mark... :w:
 
I'll have to have a play with that to see how well it functions, and find a line input for the laptop, although my Focusrite interface should do for that.

The free trial is a good idea, in case you don't get on with it at all, then you've not thrown away £30+
 
MI0PYN said:
I'll have to have a play with that to see how well it functions, and find a line input for the laptop, although my Focusrite interface should do for that.
Ah, I have one of those, or rather the M-audio equivalent https://m-audio.com/products/view/m-track-mkii though I think mine 'might' be the mark 1 version.

I tell you another one that might be OK, and cheap too, some of the USB guitar interfaces. I have one here made by Chord, the "GUSB1 Guitar-USB Interface". That cost £14.95 but I'm pretty sure you can get cheaper ones even than that.

Lots of ideas flowing now... :*:

Forgot to mention, I was trying out CQ100 last night and tried the vox setting to see how it would respond to CW. Nothing!

Tried tapping the laptop mic directly, nothing again.

Some how or another I seem to have switched off the microphone on the laptop. I have an idea it is a privacy program I installed to allow you to turn off various remote monitoring functions/devices that are on by default, and I'm pretty sure one of those is the microphone!
 
G0KZZ said:
Some how or another I seem to have switched off the microphone on the laptop.
Found the problem. Couldn't see any issues when looking through the various control/settings, so I tried using an audio recorder program (Audacity). That flagged up an unexpected error while trying to access the microphone, and gave an error code.

Checked up on the error code and found some info that suggested one of the updates for Windows triggers a privacy setting that disallows programs from accessing the microphone. So, found the setting and it had indeed been activated.  Changed the setting to allow programs to use the microphone and CQ100 worked straight away!

Fixed!
 
Okay, finally (and that's a morning of my life I'll never get back) I've got my Morserino talking nicely to my CQ100 transceiver.

Would anyone care to try a QSO with me?
 
Co-incidentally, I registered this morning, so when I get confirmed, I'll happily have a QSO with you.
 
Just for the record, the CQ100 CW calling frequency is 14.058.

There's a beacon at 14.047 that's handy for checking your receive. It transmits common words, repeating each one, and gradually increases speed.
 
I spoke too soon. Tried to use CQ100 but my Morserino had problems talking to Windows 10. I've spend an hour trying to sort it out but to no avail. I'm pretty sure this isn't a CQ100 problem.

So no CQ100 for the time being (and my 30 day free trial it ticking away). Hey Ho.
 
I think I've found the problem. I'm using a Dukabel USB sound card and that isn't always being recognised by Windows 10. I've tried it on another Windows 10 pc and same thing. I just have to unplug and plug it back in until it is recognised.

I shut everything down and started again. This time it all worked fine.

It would be good to give CQ100 a try out. There's no CW on there at 0700z on a Wednesday morning but I didn't call CQ myself so someone could be lurking on the calling frequency (you can't tell).
 
I'm puzzled about CQ100. Everything on the official website suggests that the 'keyer' in CQ100 uses the keyboard for input, I.E. it sends what you type. Having said that I read about a serial interface that was being sold that could work with CQ100 (among other programs) to allow the use of an external key. Yet I can find no record of this functionality anywhere throughout the literature for the program :-*

https://web.archive.org/web/20150214064801/http://www.amateurradioproducts.com/adx9.htm

The interface being sold was just a serial adapter made/designed to allow Bulldog keys to be used with MRX Training, CW-Com, and CQ100.

So is this some undocumented function in CQ100? Or was it a mistake on the part of the interface/key sellers?

:-*

There's a picture of the unit at the bottom of this page >>> http://www.amateurradioproducts.com/products.htm

Looking at the image seems to suggest that there was no easy way to change any configuration of the unit, so my thoughts are, does CQ100 use the same pins for keying as CW-Com?

:-*
 
G0KZZ said:
Looking at the image seems to suggest that there was no easy way to change any configuration of the unit, so my thoughts are, does CQ100 use the same pins for keying as CW-Com?

I suspect it's a mistake as there is nowhere to set a COM port for CQ100 to even monitor for input via a USB to Serial Adaptor. Probably worth a quick test, but without that simple ability to point the program at the correct input, it has slim chances of success I think.
 
The odd thing is I found some more info along the same lines from another source (it's saved on my work laptop, so not handy at the moment).
 
MI0PYN said:
G0KZZ said:
Looking at the image seems to suggest that there was no easy way to change any configuration of the unit, so my thoughts are, does CQ100 use the same pins for keying as CW-Com?

I suspect it's a mistake as there is nowhere to set a COM port for CQ100 to even monitor for input via a USB to Serial Adaptor. Probably worth a quick test, but without that simple ability to point the program at the correct input, it has slim chances of success I think.

Found it! There is a secondary program you can use with CQ100. It was only ever released as a beta version from what I can find, but it looks one heck of a beta!

It enables the use of a paddle key with CQ100, and appears to cover a number of sound card types. I also found the documentation to go with it.

Here is the program itself (it's called DahDiDah) >>> http://qsonet.com/setup_ddd.exe

Here is the manual >>> http://qsonet.com/dahdidah.pdf

Here is their discussion forum about using the program >>> http://echo.qsonet.com/viewforum.php?forumid=10

I haven't looked at it yet, or tried it, but I wonder if the 'engine' would work with other program apart from CQ100 (I'm thinking CW-Com)?


Enjoy... bd
 
I've had a play with the keyer program, and it works fine as a practice oscillator activated by a key connected via a USB to Serial adapter.

The issue is that it was designed to work with a very different Windows Audio system than is included with Windows 10. As a result I'm having real difficulty getting the audio to be routed to the CQ100 input.

I have found that CQ100 only wants audio in on the left channel when you have a stereo audio interface, it won't accept audio on the right channel.
I have also found that apparently Windows 10 does not allow you to send a main stereo "mix" to any desired interface input. In fact the audio mixing capabilities in Windows leave a huge amount to be desired.

I'll see if I can have a play with a virtual Audio cable program later to see if I can get it to work, but it makes me wish there was such a thing as a virtual audio patchbay like Jack for windows...
 
I've tried CQ100 this evening and am now getting consistently successful results (as far as I can tell, ahead of some actual QSOs).

Here is my set-up:
  • Single paddle into Morserino "EXT_PADDLE" socket
  • Headphones into Morserino "PHONES" socket via an in-line volume control
  • Dukabel external USB sound card TRRS jack into Morserino "IN/OUT" socket
  • Dukabel external USB sound card USB into 8-port powered USB hub plugged into the sole USB port on my very basic PC
  • PC running Windows 10 with Setting/Sound selected to Output Device "Speakers (2 - USB Audio Device)", and Input Device "Microphone (2 - USB Audio Device)"
The Dukabel external USB sound card is here
http://dukabel.com/product_DUSB351FB.php

There are no speakers playing into microphones here - it's all done through the wiring. The Morserino is set to "Transceiver" mode with the "iCW/Ext Trx" option selected. It generates the dit and dah tones when the paddle is pressed, sending them out to CQ100 via the external sound card. And it decodes any CQ100 tones it hears coming in. It displays the incoming and outgoing decoded text on the screen.

So far, I haven't heard any morse on CQ100 at all (apart from the Thunder Bay beacon) so I'm looking forward to tomorrow (too tired to do it now) when I might get a QSO with someone.
 

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That's interesting info Ross. I don't have that exact external audio device, but I do have an external audio input unit intended for music production that looks a lot like this one >>> https://m-audio.com/products/view/m-track-plus-mkii and I also have a cheap USB guitar interface made by Chord >>> https://www.amazon.co.uk/Chord-BPSDP33790-GUSB1-GUSB1-Guitar-USB-Interface/dp/B0118JTZ2K

I also purchased a USB sound adapter to replace her existing internal sound card on her laptop when it failed. It was only £7.99 so it would be a very cheap way to obtain a 'keying interface' for CQ100.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/TeckNet-External-Aluminum-Headphone-Microphone/dp/B000R5NJD8/ref=sr_1_5?crid=2V5O0TA55W80H&dchild=1&keywords=usb+sound+adapter&qid=1595661718&sprefix=usb+sound%2Caps%2C181&sr=8-5

Not sure why Stefan's Windows 10 is proving so defiant! Up to now I've only ever run CQ100 on phone using my laptops built in microphone and speakers. I did try an external PC desktop mic at one point but found it just would not function. After some checking I found that the cable on the microphone was defective, even though it was brand new!

A thought just occurred to me about using decoders. I wonder if there are any PC based ones that could be run in parallel with CQ100 to produce on screen results similar to CW-Com? Just a thought.

I was saying to Stefan last night that I can follow rubber stamp QSO's OK normally, and would just jot down important info like name, QTH etc. But I found that the protracted rag chewing style used on CW-Com too much hold in my head! I might manage three or four words at a time, but if a really long word is sent I totally loose the thread of what's being said! The abbreviations and prosigns etc. are generally OK though because they are only two or three letters in length generally, and so will fit in to my 'mush ware ram' quite nicely! :))

73, Mark...
 
Ah, screen decoders. I've tried several of them in the past on "real world" signals from WebSDRs, with very disappointing results.

I've just had a go with FLDigi, which seems to be one of the popular QRQ programmes. But I've never had much luck with it before and this time was no exception. The Morserino was decoding Thunder Bay reliably at 36 wpm but FLDigi had only a 60% success rate. Now I'm pretty sure this is down to me not setting FLDigi up correctly (possibly not enough volume) and I'd be very happy to take advice on how to do that.

Maybe we should start a new thread on screen decoders. What do you think?
 
I had a quick test with the DahDiDah keyer add on for CQ100, and found the same problems as Stefan mentioned earlier. I did find though that it was possible to use my USB guitar interface, and using the advanced settings on Win10 I was able to route the output from the keyer to the interface (headphone out socket), and then set the input device for CQ100 as the USB guitar interface (the guitar input). I then linked the output to input on the interface using a short audio patch lead.

Using that arrangement and then setting CQ100 to VOX mode allowed me to use the keyer and have it activate the virtual 'transceiver'. For RX I set the output from CQ100 as the laptops own sound system, and just to make sure it was working I turned off the squelch on CQ100 to allow white noise from the speakers while not sending.

At the moment though I still need to find a way to break in to the routed TX audio so that I can hear the keyer output while sending. Possibly a simple "Y" lead would work instead of the patch lead mentioned above? That way the audio could also be fed to an external amplified speaker to allow side tone monitoring.

It would be handy if it was possible to listen to your own 'signal' from the CQ100 network, but I'm not sure it is possible to make more than one connection at a time due to the program being 'tied' to your account. :-*

Work in progress... bd

foggycoder said:
Maybe we should start a new thread on screen decoders. What do you think?

I think go for it!

:w:
 
This post is to capture some of G0KZZ's tips for using CQ100, gleaned from tonight's QSO.
  • Set MIC GAIN to 10 o'clock - this reduces clipping. You should see the power meter going up no higher than 9.
  • Instead of VOX, select PTT LOCK. Hit the space bar and start transmitting. After you've finished transmitting, hit the space bar again.
  • G0KZZ suggested I select SQUELCH OFF so I could hear white noise when not transmitting but this didn't work for me (no white noise)
I kept forgetting to toggle the PTT. This meant that I spent ages "transmitting" but nothing was going out. This happened several times. It drove me crackers. Heaven knows what G0KZZ thought of the strange silences! Maybe I'll get the hang of it with time.

The Morserino set up described above worked well. I can hear myself transmitting. The decoder worked well although I didn't use it - we were at 10 wpm which was absolutely fine for me to copy using pencil and paper. I could probably go a bit faster but then I might have to look at the decoder now and then and I'm trying not to do that.
 
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